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Old Jul 29, 2010, 08:23 PM // 20:23   #1
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Hello!
Recently i've been playing my paragon and getting really bored and not really impressed by the damage output. I put together this build as a trial really so any ways to better the build are welcomed!

Firstly, These are the weapons i choose to use;
I would like to point out that with this build a "Shocking Spearhead" is a must!



Secondly, The attributes (can be changed however you want to run things but this is how i choose to run it)



I am aware that leadership needs to be set to 10 but i only have a command headpiece atm!

Thirdly, the skills;



Skill 1: Lightning Javelin - 5 energy for 43 damage +25% armor penetration + interupt of attacking foes. 1 second cast time.

Skill 2: Spear of Lightning - 5 energy for +15 damage +25% armor penetration.

Skill 3: Shell Shock - 5 energy for 34 Lightning damage +25% armor penetration + Cracked armor 17 seconds.

Skill 4: Signet of Return - signet Res.

Skill 5: Soldier's Fury (Elite) - Maintanable IAS and 33% more adrenaline.

Skill 6: "Go For The Eyes" - 72% chance to crit and spammable source of energy management.

Skill 7: Conjure Lightning - +17 damage to attacks. Lovely.

Skill 8: "Cant Touch This" - Optional shout purely to keep Soldiers fury active.


Basically thats it, does quite decent damage really. Bit of a down side to the spells is the 1 second casting time but i think it mixes the paragon up abit

Once again, comments and advice welcomed.

~ Swing

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Old Jul 29, 2010, 09:26 PM // 21:26   #2
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buy strenght and honor inscription to ur spear
lower air magic and add points to spear mastery
lightning javelin is useless
vicious attack is cool
run imbagon in pve
we shall return is good
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Old Jul 29, 2010, 09:39 PM // 21:39   #3
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i have run a few builds like this (fire and air).
In my opinion you could improve your build by changing attributes a little and swapping two skills -- since you have cracked armor from Shell Shock, bring Chest Thumper (an EotN skill) and you have instant deep wound. Also I'd bring Stand Your Ground instead of Can't Touch This. At 10 command it lasts 16 out of 20 seconds so it is mostly maintainable +24 armor for the entire group. And I'd lower air magic a bit to make the attributes work out better. An 11-9-8-8 split could give you 12 spear (11+1), 10 command (9+1), 10 leadership (8+1+1) and 8 Air Magic. The damage from Conjure Lightning is slightly less but I think the other advantages would make up for it.
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Old Jul 29, 2010, 09:59 PM // 21:59   #4
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this was a pvp build about 2 1/2 years ago.
The biggest problem with this is that you waste the elite. Dump light. jav for AR; then swap your elite with Cruel Spear, Def. Anthem for blocking, or Crippling Anthem for condition spreading. Also consider Barbed Spear for additional condition spamming.

I agree with Khomet, definitely Stand your Ground over CTT, and if you go Chest Thumper, forget Cruel Spear and go for Stunning Strike or Defensive Anthem.
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Old Jul 30, 2010, 04:58 AM // 04:58   #5
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You're missing a couple skills if you really want to do damage; first, I'd recommend changing the elite to Focused Anger. Second, I'd swap out Lightning Javelin for Ebon Battle Standard of Honor. Even more damage to your attacks. Third, I'd drop Shell Shock for Asuran Scan/I Am The Strongest (take your pick) and lastly swap Can't Touch This for Anthem of Envy. I know that's a lot of changes, but it adds a ton of damage to your build, and what looks like an energy intensive build is easily managed by the energy return from GFTE, which with Focused Anger you'll be spamming every two hits. If you want an IAS you could drop Sig of Return for Aggressive Refrain, or just bring candy (also good for the lazy imbagons ) Oh, and whoever recommended you get a Strength and Honor inscription, I politely suggest that a Guided By Fate inscription would be better. +15%^enchanted is better than +15%^50 if you're running a conjure build.

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Old Jul 30, 2010, 08:57 AM // 08:57   #6
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Thank you for all your comments so far
Admittedly my paragon is under used so i cant get some of the title skills (EBSoH or Asuran scan) but when i can ill use them probably
cheers
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Old Jul 30, 2010, 11:11 AM // 11:11   #7
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buy strenght and honor inscription to ur spear
lower air magic and add points to spear mastery
lightning javelin is useless
vicious attack is cool
run imbagon in pve
we shall return is good
Sigh... Not even going to comment on the overused phrased "use imbagon" beyond this post.


People really need to learn how to play Paragon and not slap the same build on every single Paragon in the game.... Wtb originality.
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Old Jul 30, 2010, 02:14 PM // 14:14   #8
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run imbagon in pve
Why?
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Old Jul 30, 2010, 05:30 PM // 17:30   #9
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This is the reason you see so few Paragons in game, everytime someone makes a comment about something different some idiot slaps a build in their face with the message, this is the only build that works, if you don't use it your a noob.............

Man am I glad I don't have to deal with freaking pugs in this game and their narrow minded bullshit....lmao

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Old Jul 31, 2010, 09:58 PM // 21:58   #10
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Hey, it's not the most efficient, but it could fit a role-player well.

+1 for innovation.
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Old Aug 03, 2010, 09:00 PM // 21:00   #11
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looks interesting, i've never been a fan of Soldiers fury :S
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Old Aug 05, 2010, 01:05 PM // 13:05   #12
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looks interesting, I've never been a fan of Soldiers fury :S
Soldiers fury is not great, I have tried to like it but even with cons it's a waste of an elite slot. At best its a passable hero elite in PvE.

PvP... its adequate.
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Old Aug 09, 2010, 06:27 PM // 18:27   #13
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Soldiers fury is not great, I have tried to like it but even with cons it's a waste of an elite slot. At best its a passable hero elite in PvE.

PvP... its adequate.
Soldier's Fury is pretty great except for the -20 armor. I'll quote this note from the wiki:
"33% IAS and 33% more adrenaline equal adrenaline gain doubling."

You can get more than double adrenaline gain with Focused Anger... but Focused Anger is not maintainable and it does not give you increased attack speed. So the paragon using Soldier's Fury is getting similar adrenaline gain while doing more damage, and it is 100% maintainable. That isn't bad at all, my only complaint about it is the armor penalty.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Soldier%27s_Fury
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Focused_Anger
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Old Aug 09, 2010, 08:30 PM // 20:30   #14
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Where's asuran scan? Put that on here
Why do you have soldiers fury as your elite when the best IAS in the game is aggressive refrain?(After critical agility of course) Take it off and put AR in.
Is that lightning javelin? Take that crap off.
Where the hell is chest thumper? Put that in there. Or you could ust get rid of shell shock and replace that with find their weakness.
Spec the hell out of air magic. Spec into spear mastery until you're at 14

Do all that and you'll have a good build. Keep it as is and you'll have one of the worst builds I've ever seen.
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Old Aug 09, 2010, 09:19 PM // 21:19   #15
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Uhmm im not an holy-imbagon-worshipper, BUT :P

U got a big waste for ur elite skill, Soldier's fury is one of the worst elite skills IMO. it mostly because its 33% adrenaline is not good, if it was 34% it was good. I know u think this is bullsh1t but believe me, it makes a world of difference.. If u want to go for high dmg, then take cruel spear, or better for HM annoying casters --> take stunningstrike.

+1 on asuranscan
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Old Aug 11, 2010, 04:02 PM // 16:02   #16
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Might take some point moving, but in a totally different suggestion from the above! If you're going to be spamming a lot of energy skills you might consider The Power is Yours!, remembering that it is used for the energy you get out of it, not the energy your party is getting. It is optimal at 8 motiv, which is nice since you don't have to devote as many points to an otherwise pretty meh attribute.

We Shall Return > Signet of Return. Even at low communing.

Lightening javelin's not so useful, you should be able to hit close to that with spear attacks (get a strength of honor insc).
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Old Aug 15, 2010, 12:57 AM // 00:57   #17
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First, you don't need SF. If you're going to try to spam GFTE! you'll get the adrenaline quickly enough without it. If you want an IAS, just use Agressive Refrain (or some other skill), there is NO reason to waste an elite for it.

Secondly, another +1 to Asuran Scan.

Thirdly, CHEST THUMPER if you're going to run a cracked armor skill >.< (That needs no explanation)
In addition to the cracked armor, you're better having a Necromancer hero use Weaken Armor, casts and recharges faster, and multi-target as well (sorry to point out another class, but you could be putting more efficient damaging skills in place of it >.<)

If you're using Command, Anthem of Weariness is great for damage mitigation and e-management. (Or if that's too Imbagon for you, Anthem of Flame...)

Bring a Strength of honor inscription, potentially better than "Guided By Fate" should you be enchant stripped.

And... lastly....
Don't make a crap build out of this.
***Almost*** every paragon I've ever met running non-imbagon builds, more than often run crap, no use of e-management builds.... i.e.
I've met a Paragon who spammed Fire spells.... with no e-management, no runes to increase energy.... funnily enough I managed to do the Zinn's Task quests with him... and my heroes and henchies >.<

Good job on trying.
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Old Aug 15, 2010, 01:22 AM // 01:22   #18
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We Shall Return > Signet of Return. Even at low communing.
Uhhhh Paragons don't have communing.
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Old Aug 15, 2010, 07:55 PM // 19:55   #19
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Uhhhh Paragons don't have communing.
It's just a typo, but you knew that.

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